Gabe Weaver & Billy Danza, You've had you're say. We're done discussing. Get back to your position. Let's play. What? Not done yet? Ok, you want a piece of me, I'll give you one: I read with interest your expert comments regarding the 64 professional baseball umpires in the major leagues, their physical attributes, union clauses, over-calls, non-calls, travel habits,rules mis-interpretations, etc.. Perhaps we can look at all of these items in calm, logical manner, without emotion. Are you with me, dickheads? First, Mr. Weaving: As I sorted through your name calling diatribe it struck me that you were attempting to make some point in regards to umpires not being "fit" to properly attend to the calling of a baseball game and that somehow their concerns were more attuned to per diem contract clauses than proper control on the ball field. Your $200 per diem amount is correct, but you failed to mention that the stated amount is for hotels, food, and drink. Given the rental rates in most major league cities, I suspect that's a close call. Hell, I suggest that you drop double that amount down the g-strings of scantily clad young ladies in the D.C. suburbs before the third rum and coke is a memmory. We are talking about a group of 64 very select professionals here, who have earned their way to the top after laboring on $18 per diem in East T-Shirt, Iowa for a good ten years before making it to the show. If they want to live the good life when they finally make it, so be it. Their experience, knowledge, and professionalism on the field is generally credited to be the best of any major professional sport. A four man crew does not have to sprint like an NFL backjudge, and they get a hell of a lot more right on any percentage basis you want to measure. Your comments on the "actual" strike zone were comical, but I'll address this subject more as I discuss the areas of concern for Billy Danza from his note. I guess the thrill of roto-golf has found a tremendous allure for you, Mr. Danzas with Wolves and Costases and Morgans and Gammons and Knights and other owner shills. Obviously you would like to substitute the culture of golf rules for the tradition honored baseball rules. That way, over-dressed sparrow farts such as yourself could sit at home in your Barclay lounger, drink beer and blow smoke rings while hitting the speed dial and calling in transgressions. I could see it now: "Al, from Brookly, you're on." "Thanks, Mr. Morgan. That umpire missed that last pitch. The ball was a good two inches off the plate. Change the call to 2-2 and ask the cameraman to go to more overhead shots." It ain't a call in show, Jack. And on the subject of "the neighborhood play", I have never known a single umpire to have a problem calling a runner out on a smoothly delivered ball with the fielder gliding across the bag, avoiding a sliding runner and routinely throwing the ball to complete the double play. If your untrained eye cannot see that glide across the bag with the ball in possession then you should work harder at it. On the other hand, when a play breaks down because of the action of the defense and a fielder is pulled off the bag, the runner is safe. Hendry got it dead right at live speed. I found it amazing that anyone watching at slow motion from a camera angle found three innings later who thought that Vizquel was safe could make such an obvious error. Hendry had the live play and he nailed it good. Replay watchers blew it. Why else would the runner have remained at second if he wasn't safe? Maybe we should draw those yellow lines on the television screen around the strike zone like they have for first downs in football games now. Wouldn't that make the games more inviting. Of course the strike zone is an area above the plate where any part of the ball may pass through rather than a single point or line, but I'm sure you experts were well aware of that. You saw it on your Sonytrons. Bottom line, oh clueless ones: All the October hype on umpires including the 27 camera angles designed to show the play until the umpires appear wrong in slow motion is about money. Major League Owners are about to attempt to shove it up the union's ass as scheduled one more time. Joe Morgan, Bob Costas, Peter Gammons, Ray Knight, USA Today and company know where their bread is buttered. Fans are sheep. Truth is nobody has ever umpired a perfect game. It can't happen. It's an asymptotic equation that cannot reach the axis point. It's not science, it's baseball. 64 guys have earned the right to be where they are. If 10% suck, so what. 10% of the Yankees and Padres suck too. Deal with it. Don't let the media change your focus away from the fact that NO umpire's call will decide a game one way or the other. The numbers of those "questionable" judgement calls are statistically irrelevant to the numbers of outs/safes, balls/strikes, fair/fouls. One final note: home plate is 17 inches wide. The line that marks the batter's box is 6 inches from home plate. The average bat is 34 inches long. The ball is roughly three inches in diameter. You do the math for crybabies like Paul O'Neil who don't want to take an outside slider the opposite way because it's hard to do. Gentlemen, we're finished here. There will be no more discussion unless you'd like to try to beat the traffic home. Blue Monkey