Andy, Check out this Dobie Gillis page http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052490/fullcredits#cast I think we were probably talking about two different guys .. I said he played the cool rich guy who got all the girls ... and he did: Milton Armitage is Dobie's arch nemesis. He is handsome and wealthy, and is in competition with Dobie for the affections of Thalia Menenger. Milton is the kind of guy who everything comes easily to, and is a constant thorn in the side of Dobie Gillis. But you were talking about some goofy rich guy who often acted like a baby: Chatsworth is a spoiled and bratty rich kid who provides Dobie with much grief. He's got it all over Dobie, flaunting his family status and wealth to attract the hearts of Dobie's ever evolving love interests. Chatsworth takes great pleasure in being foil to Dobie Gillis, possibly because when he goes home he has to deal with his overbearing, snobby mother, Clarice Osborne. Warren played the former ... and I'll claim victory for that ... remember that after the private round of blackjack I borrowed $5 from you to tip the dealer? Consider us even! ******************************************************************* Andy wrote: Fox, OUR BET was that Warren Beatty played Chadsworth Osborne, the rich kid, whom I told you I could picture and it wasn't Warren Beatty. I think the bet is a King-Seven, vs. a dealer's Ace-Six. Push. You should owe me the money back or my name isn't Herbert T. Gillis. Herbert. ******************************************************************* From: Fox Subject: redefining wagers Whoa, wait a second. As I recall it went something like this: Fox (trying to remember the name of the actor who played Bugsy Malone):"You know, it was that guy who played the rich kid on Dobie Gillis, he married Annette Benning - I like that Annette Benning" Andy (knowingly): "You mean Warren Beatty? He wasn't on Dobie Gillis." Fox (patiently): "Yes he was. He played the cool rich guy who got all the girls." Andy (importantly):"the rich guy was Chadsbourne Odsworth the third - that wasn't Beatty - if Beatty was on Dobie Gillis I think we would all remember it" Fox (modestly): "I don't remember his name but Beatty played the cool rich guy - if you say that's Chadsborn OddJob the third OK, fine, but Beatty was a character on the show" Andy (getting excited): "No way you fucking idiot. I'll bet you five dollars if you give me 50 to 1 odds, that's how sure I am that Warren Beatty was never on Dobie Gillis." Fox (amiably): "OK, I'll do the bet" Andy (chortling): "Hey everybody, this idiot thinks Warren Beatty was on Dobie Gillis. I'm a Dobie Gillis expert. Maynard G. Krebs, herbert T., his wife was Winnie, remember. No way, no how, was Mr. Warren Beatty ever on that show. If he was I sure would know about it. Ha Ha Ha Ha, Fox owes me $50." Fox (wisely): "We'll see." So quit trying to rewrite history. You know I'm always right, just like the perfessor on Gilligans Island ... who was it who played him? .. I think it was that kid from American Graffiti (great flick) who went on to play the star wars guy. So consider us even. Fox ******************************************************************* To: Fox Subject: Re: redefining wagers fox, this is what they refer to as "revisionist history" Unfortunately, you have the $5 in your possession. Don't worry, what goes around, comes around or my name isn't Herbert T. Gillis. Herbert.